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  • Outlook for Public and Private Markets

    Torsten Sløk

    Apollo Chief Economist

    My latest outlook presentation is available here.

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  • The ICR for the IG Index Looks Good

    Torsten Sløk

    Apollo Chief Economist

    The interest coverage ratio for the investment grade index is currently near all-time high levels, see chart below.

    High quality credit is in excellent shape
    Source: Bloomberg, Apollo Chief Economist

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  • A Non-recession Recession

    Torsten Sløk

    Apollo Chief Economist

    What makes the coming recession so unusual is that it is happening after almost 15 years of money printing, which never really had any major positive effect on GDP growth. Instead, the 15 years of money printing created a significant bubble in asset prices.

    As a result, the big correction during this recession will not be in the economy but in asset prices as the Fed continues to deflate the buy-everything bubble created due to global easy money.

    A mild economic recession with a big recession in asset prices is what we call a non-recession recession.

    With inflation currently at 5%, well above the Fed’s 2% inflation target, the ongoing correction in asset prices will continue as the costs of capital will stay elevated well into 2024.

    GDP and unemployment rate change during recessions
    Source: BEA, Haver Analytics, Apollo Chief Economist. Note: Estimates shown for real GDP and nominal GDP are for the period covering the peak-to-trough decline in real GDP. Unemployment rate is trough to peak.

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  • Milder but Longer Slowdown

    Torsten Sløk

    Apollo Chief Economist

    The stock of CRE debt outstanding today is significantly smaller than the stock of residential mortgage debt outstanding in 2007, see chart below. 

    As a result, this recession will be milder than in 2008, but it will likely be longer because the required correction in CRE prices will be spread out over a longer period.

    This recession will be milder than in 2008
    Source: BEA, FRB, Haver Analytics, Apollo Chief Economist

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  • The Fed Is Trying to Cool Down the Economy

    Torsten Sløk

    Apollo Chief Economist

    A survey of 67 banks in the Dallas Fed district carried out in early May shows that credit standards have tightened significantly since SVB collapsed, and bank credit conditions are now at 2020 levels, and the deterioration continues, see chart below.

    Combined with still tight IG and HY spreads, the Fed will look at this and conclude that tighter credit conditions are needed to get inflation down from currently 5% to the Fed’s 2% inflation target. In particular in a situation where households are still sitting on plenty of cash, see also this new Fed working paper, which finds that consumers have plenty of excess savings left at least until the end of the year.

    Credit standards at 2020 levels and deterioration continues
    Source: Banking Conditions Survey, Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, Apollo Chief Economist. Note: Data were collected May 2–10, and 67 financial institutions responded to the survey headquartered in the Eleventh Federal Reserve District.

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  • Consensus Expects a Hard Landing

    Torsten Sløk

    Apollo Chief Economist

    The consensus expects a recession starting next quarter, but the upside risk to this negative forecast is that consumers still have plenty of savings left, see also this new Fed paper, which finds that households will not run out of excess savings before the fourth quarter of 2023.

    The consensus expects negative growth for the coming three quarters
    Source: Bloomberg, Apollo Chief Economist

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  • HY Spreads Should Be Trading Wider

    Torsten Sløk

    Apollo Chief Economist

    It is surprising how narrow high yield credit spreads are given the ongoing tightening in credit conditions in the banking sector, see chart below.

    Banks tightening credit conditions, HY spread should be trading wider
    Source: FRB, Haver Analytics, Bloomberg, Apollo Chief Economist

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  • One way to calculate how much the ongoing banking crisis corresponds to in Fed hikes is to look at how much borrowing costs have increased for regional banks and money center banks since Silicon Valley Bank collapsed. 

    The chart below shows that since SVB failed, IG credit spreads for regional banks have widened 200bps and for diversified banks 50bps. 

    And for all banks, the spread widening has stayed at a new higher level because many banks have been downgraded. Spreads first moved up to a higher level after SVB and then another higher level after FRC, showing that the ongoing banking crisis is having a permanent negative effect on the economy. 

    Put differently, the increase in borrowing costs since SVB failed corresponds to a 200bps permanent Fed hike for regional banks and 50bps permanent Fed hike for large banks. Weighing these estimates together using the shares of loans and leases accounted for by small and large banks, respectively, gives an economy-wide Fed tightening of a bit more than 100bps for the entire banking sector.

    In short, the jump in funding costs for banks is permanent, and it has become a lot more expensive for many banks to run their business, and the banking crisis is not over. 

    SVB and FRC lifted funding costs for banks permanently
    Source: ICE BofA, Bloomberg, Apollo Chief Economist. Note: Unweighted average spreads of bonds from ICE 5-10 Year US Banking Index, C6PX Index for bonds issued before 1st Jan 2023. There are 8 banks in the Regional index and 41 banks in the Diversified index. Regional banks include BankUnited, Citizens Financial, Huntington, and Zions. Diversified banks include JP Morgan, Citibank, and Bank of America.

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  • Some CRE Has Positive Returns

    Torsten Sløk

    Apollo Chief Economist

    There are some important differences in CRE, with some sectors such as office having negative performance and industrial and warehouses showing positive performance, see chart below.

    Source: Bloomberg, Apollo Chief Economist

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  • It used to be the case that higher long-term interest rates were positive for banks because higher long rates meant wider net interest margins.

    But since the Fed started hiking rates last year, this correlation has broken down, see chart below.

    Now higher rates are negative for banks because it has a negative impact on their assets, and higher rates and an inverted yield curve increase the risks of a recession and hence credit losses.

    Source: Bloomberg, Apollo Chief Economist

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